He’s My Troll Now

I woke up this morning to an email from Neil C. Reinhardt.  Not hard to recognize his voice, since his caps lock key is still stuck:

Neil C. Reinhardt.  Troll.  'Nuff said.

HEY DUMB, DELUDED, DEMENTED DARWIN THE COWARD,

“I am curious about whether you can turn up ANY double blind peer reviewed investigation of noni that indicates it has value.”

IF YOU ACTUALLY USED YOUR BRAIN EFFECTIVELY, YOU WOULD HAVE READ THE INFORMATION IN THE CLINICAL TRIAL LINK I INCLUDED

Clinical Studies prove Noni Juice boosts our immune systems! For a brief
summary of TNI’s 14 human clinical trials

http://www.gononi.com/united_states/english/link/updates/full?id=316871

YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THERE WERE MANY DOUBLE BLIND STUDIES DONE.

HAD YOU DONE SO, THEN YOU MAY HAVE NOT POSTED AND AGAIN PROVEN WHAT A TOTAL RETARD YOU ARE

OF COURSE, AS YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN, OVER AND OVER AGAIN YOUR READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS ARE EVEN WORSE THAN
THAN YOUR NEARLY NON-EXISTENT ABILITY TO USE LOGIC, YOU WOULD MOST PROBABLY STILL POST YOUR TOTALLY IGNORANT COMMENTS.

“That of course is the only kind of endorsement that means anything at
all.”

THAT IS JUST MORE PROOF YOUR LOGIC IS IN THE GUTTER ALONG WITH YOUR INTEGRITY AND HONOR!

ENDORSEMENTS FROM ACTUAL REAL DOCTORS WHICH INCLUDE THEIR SPECIALTY AND THE CITY THEY PRACTICE IN ARE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AS DELUDED, DEMENTED AND AS DUMB AS YOU ARE!

AND FYI CHILD,

I MAY DECIDE TO FIND YOU AND SEE IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY THE SAME THINGS TO MY FACE AS YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE HIDING LIKE A COWARD BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER.

NEIL C. REINHARDT

So of course I had to follow his link, and that was interesting.  His link took me to “A brief summary of TNI’s 14 human clinical trials”, a page inflating the results of those 14 clinical trials and  hyping Neil’s noni juice.

Gosh.  A real scientist in a lab coat doing important science.  Or maybe an actor.  Sure gives me confidence in noni juice. For example, the first summary includes this claim:  “Results: TNJ absolutely safe & reduced number of illness related events”.  But then I followed the link to the actual study, which  is… not quite as enthusiastic about the juice.

“ABSTRACT: Morinda citrifolia L. (noni) fruit has been used in tropical regions as both food and folk medicine. The recent use of noni as a dietary supplement has increased greatly. To describe the safety of this fruit, a literature review and data from new studies are presented. Several preclinical safety tests and a human clinical safety study have revealed no adverse health effects, even at high doses. The available data substantiate its continued use as a safe food.”

Oh, I see.  Safe. Not actually good for anything much.  Not a word about “reduced number of illness related events”. Just “safe”.  Safe as drinking orange juice.  It’s a cute trick, extrapolating “safe” to “beneficial”.

I’m not wasting any more of my time investigating Neil’s information.  I’ll leave that to George W. over at Misplaced Grace, who is already on the case and has devoted considerable time to his research, promising us a follow up post in the near future.

ENDORSEMENTS FROM ACTUAL REAL DOCTORS WHICH INCLUDE THEIR SPECIALTY AND THE CITY THEY PRACTICE IN ARE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AS DELUDED, DEMENTED AND AS DUMB AS YOU ARE!

Oh really.  So, individual doctors are good sources of advice on the value of a nutritional supplement?  Would these be the same doctors who, just a few years ago, told us that masturbation causes insanity, curvature of the spine, epilepsy, and heart problems and therefore all infants should be circumcised to cure this horrible vice?  Or would these be the doctors who recommended we smoke Camels until the evidence became overwhelming?  Or the doctors who performed a century of useless radical mastectomies, and only stopped when double blind clinical trials proved this mutilation of women had no value?

If you weren’t such a credulous troll, Neil, you would know that the only proof of efficacy comes from double blind clinical studies, and that anecdotal evidence proves nothing, even if it comes from a doctor.  Doctors are as human, and fallible, as anybody else.

Neil C. Reinhardt continues to rant in his troll voice, expecting people to be persuaded by his arguments while showing me no courtesy or respect at all.  Fuck him.  He’s just an asshole.

By the way, I wonder if he’d be so ready to “FIND YOU AND SEE IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY THE SAME THINGS TO MY FACE AS YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE HIDING LIKE A COWARD BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER.” if he knew that, following the last time I was challenged to a fight, I spent two years in jail for manslaughter.  Just how much of a fool is Neil C. Reinhardt?   I hope I don’t find out.  There are events in my life I’m not anxious to repeat, and pointless bullshit schoolyard style fights are high on the list.  Come and beat me to a pulp or die trying, Neil.  Would that prove you are right?  Asshole.

4 Comments »

  1. George W. Said,

    September 20, 2011 @ 12:51 pm

    I am still researching a few of TNI’s claims- they wisely focus a lot of energy on the beneficial effect of a little researched terpene variant that I have spent over a week down the rabbit hole trying to understand.

    See? The problem is that Neil insists that we can assume something is a “miracle” because some people say it is, and I’m actually trying to follow the research. Shame on me.

  2. Darwin Harmless Said,

    September 21, 2011 @ 9:42 am

    I’m glad you are still on the case. But even if you discover rock solid double blind peer reviewed clinical trials that prove beyond a doubt that noni will cure hemorrhoids and flatulence, Neil C. Reinhardt is still an ignorant buffoon and the epitome of trolldom.
    I look forward to reading the the results of your research. Glad it’s you putting in the time, and not me. 🙂

  3. random ntrygg Said,

    September 20, 2011 @ 4:15 pm

    I think it’s better to delete the troll than give attention to him

    noni is just the current craze that’s been around about 6 years in Canada that I am aware of

    originally it was touted as a diabetic cure and since it was just juice, there didn’t seem any harm in trying it

    but unsurprisingly, it was very expensive and had no noticeable impact on my blood sugar readings

    and when the marketing expanded to include other illnesses, that was all the hallmarks of woo that I needed.

  4. Darwin Harmless Said,

    September 21, 2011 @ 9:38 am

    Normally I agree, but George over at Misplaced Grace blew a gasket when the troll spammed his eulogy. George decided to slap this troll around. I thought George’s rant was funny, so I commented. That got the troll on to me, and this troll seems to be a real person so we’ve been having fun winding him up. I live in hope of reforming a troll, but of course it’s mere hubris, as Neil C. Reinhardt is in the profess of demonstrating.
    We can suspect that noni is just fruit juice, and as valuable as drinking orange juice. But in the mind of our troll, anecdotal dismissals from a thousand reasonable people like you do not counter one enthusiastic anecdotal endorsement, especially if it comes from a doctor or other authority figure who has bought into making his fortune selling the drink.

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